(3rd article in the Flat Earth Series)
In the first two articles of this series, The Flat Earth Movement: Is It For Real? and Was Flat Earth Leaked By Controlled Opposition?, I’ve painted the picture of a returning Messiah who will offer the world salvation. This Messiah takes away the sins of the world.
Of course this isn’t the real Jesus. The real Jesus came and lived a sinless life so He could offer us a new nature (Ephesians 4:24). By dying on the cross, He became the propitiation (substitution) for our sins (1 John 2:2). His new nature is offered to us by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). Through spiritual birth we become a new creation (1 Corinthians 5:17).
What will the false messiah do to take away our sins? Will he offer us a new nature and make us a new creation?
To answer these questions, we need to understand the mechanics of man’s nature and physical body according to the Bible.
Two Headships of Humanity
The Bible teaches that there are TWO headships of humanity:
1. The first man, Adam.
2. The last Adam, Jesus Christ.
And so it is written, The FIRST MAN ADAM was made a living soul; THE LAST ADAM was made a quickening spirit. The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.1 Corinthians 15:45, 47
They are referred to as “headships” because each represents a lineage of mankind.
For each lineage a NATURE is offered. Natures are given at conception. Each is transferred by a SEED.
The first man Adam, through sperm, offers a corruptible seed. It is passed on through the DNA of a PHYSICAL BIRTH.
The last Adam Jesus Christ, through the Holy Spirit, offers an incorruptible seed. It is passed on through the DNA of a SPIRITUAL BIRTH.
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.1 Peter 1:23
Satan Has No Seed To Offer
What I want you to see is that Satan has NO SEED TO OFFER. He can’t create a new nature. All he can do is influence and control the corrupted nature passed on to mankind through the first man Adam.
He also can’t alter man’s physical body beyond the barrier that God has placed there.
The Bible makes us aware of this barrier when it says that God created everything after its own KIND.
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.Genesis 1:25
This also includes man because God created him after a kind, he created him after Himself— in His own image (Genesis 1:27).
What does it mean to be created AFTER A KIND?
It means that a specie can’t change between a specie. A dog can’t become a cat. A horse can’t become a cow. A monkey can’t become a man. The false idea that you can move between species is called Macroevolution.
However God does allow a specie to change WITHIN a specie. There are many types of dogs that have evolved within their specie. There are many types of horses that have evolved within their specie. There are many types of monkeys that have evolved within their specie. The fact that you can change within species is called Microevolution.
Why the Book of Enoch and the Bible Are Not Compatible
Now, in spite of what we have just discussed, the coming false messiah will claim that men can be changed into another specie through transhumanism.
What is transhumanism?
Transhumanism means that men can be genetically engineered in spite of the barriers placed there by God. It means that human HYBRIDS can be created.
Of course, the coming false messiah will claim that he can create GOOD hybrids— sinless hybrids. However, the Book of Enoch claims that God allowed BAD hybrids to be created.
The Book of Enoch teaches that:
1. Fallen angels copulated with human females to create hybrids known as Nephilim.
2. Upon their death, the Nephilim became disembodied spirits.
3. The spirits of the Nephilim are what we now call demons.
Of course the Bible doesn’t teach any of this, although those who accept the Book of Enoch think that it does. Could it be that they have superimposed their ideas upon scripture?
This is what the Bible actually says:
There were giants (Nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.Genesis 6:4
What we need to understand is:
1. Who the sons of God are?
2. Who the Nephilim are?
3. Who demons are?
Who are the Sons of God?
One of the basic rules for interpreting scripture is:
Interpret unclear passages of scripture in the light of clear passages of scripture.
So as we look to understand this passage, we ask, “What is the clear meaning for the SONS OF GOD in other passages of scripture?”
In every case where it is not obscure, it always refers to ISRAEL. In some passages it refers to them as the “sons of God” in other passages it refers to them as the “children of God”.
All of these passages are speaking about the sons/children of THE PROMISE given in Genesis 3:15.
The sons/children of God include:
1. Seth/Noah/Shem/Abraham (Pre Israel)
2. Nation of Israel
3. Spiritual Israel (The Church)
Even Jesus is referred to as a son in context to Israel (Matthew 2:15 fulfilling Hosea 11:1).
Here are some of the passages referring to the Nation of Israel and Spiritual Israel:
Nation of Israel
Spiritual Israel
Pre Israel and the Rule of Biblical Context
In order to understand why Pre Israel and those mentioned in Genesis 6 would be referred to as the sons of God, we need to utilize another rule for interpreting scripture— the rule of Biblical Context.
Biblical context can help us understand why the term “sons of God” would be used in Genesis 6:2,4 and why they are MEN, are NOT angels.
Let’s take a look at the CONTEXT and natural progression of scripture PRIOR to Genesis 6.
Genesis 3 - The Fall and the Promise
In Genesis 3 we see the fall of the first man Adam and the promise of redemption (Genesis 3:15). Genesis 3:15 promises the coming of a NEW SEED to save mankind (Jesus Christ).
Genesis 4 - The Ungodly Line of Cain
Genesis 4 reveals that the promise of redemption comes through the blood of a lamb (Jesus Christ). Cain rejects God’s method of redemption. The ungodly line of Cain is explained.
Genesis 5 - The Godly Line of Seth
The last verse in Genesis 4 introduces us to what we can expect in Genesis 5— an explanation to the Godly line of Seth. Genesis 4:26 says:
And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: THEN BEGAN MEN TO CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD.Genesis 4:26
The sons of God were born with Seth. They were those that “called upon the name of the Lord”— The Promise!
Genesis 6 - The Marriage of the Holy and Unholy Lines of Seth and Cain
In Genesis 6 we see the Godly line of Seth (or the sons of God) marry the Ungodly line of Cain (daughters of men) and have children with them. The term “sons of God” is used here as a natural progression of scripture, it explains WHO the sons of God are in relation to the daughters of men. They were those following God. That they would marry evil daughters of men and have children with them explains the extent of their sin.
Genesis 7 and 8 - The Judgement of God— The Flood
In the last half of Genesis 6 and into Genesis 7-8 we see the judgement of God for the sins of the sons of God and the daughters of men. God destroys mankind by sending the FLOOD.
In Genesis 6:5, 7-8 we read:
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.Genesis 6:5, 7-8
In Summation
In all of this we see that the proper interpretation for the “sons of God” comes through the natural progression of scripture— the sons of God are the Godly line of Seth. There is no reason to believe that the “sons of God” are angels unless you are superimposing the Book of Enoch over scripture. Angels are never mentioned in the context of Genesis 3-8 at all.
Other Reasons Why the Sons of God are Not Angels
1. The Bible says that NO ANGEL has ever been called the Son of God.
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?Hebrews 1:5
This scripture, referring to Christ also refers to us (Spiritual Israel) in that we are IN Christ. We are also called the sons of God (Galatians 3:26).
2. The Bible says that angels do NOT MARRY. If this is the case, how can angels marry humans in Genesis 6:2,4?
For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.Mark 12:25
Who Are the Nephilim?
Let’s review. Let’s see how the the term “nephilim” is used in Genesis 6:4:
There were giants (nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.Genesis 6:4
The word “giants” is translated Nephilim in some translations. The Book of Enoch says that the offspring of the sons of God and the daughters of men were Nephilim.
But is that what the scripture really says?
No. Actually, the phrase, “There were giants (Nephilim) in the earth in those days” is an explanatory parenthesis! It is a qualifying statement used to show us the time frame that the sons of God and the daughters of men came together. In others words, the sons of God came unto the daughters of men WHEN the Nephilim were on the earth.
Furthermore, the “mighty men” referenced here are not Nephilim, but children born to the sons of God (which I have shown to be men) and daughters of men.
In addition to this, if the Nephilim are hybrids that became disembodied spirits during the flood, why are the Nephilim on the earth after the flood (Number 13:33)? The Nephilim referenced here are HUMAN, born to human parents, not fallen angels. Their human father is Anak.
And there we saw the giants (Nephilim), the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.Numbers 13:33
In Summation
The Nephilim were a race of human giants— they were not demonic hybrids. The Bible doesn’t explain why they were large, just that they were. In Deuteronomy 3:11, we see that they eventually died out. There are those who want to keep them alive through the Book of Enoch.
Who Are Demons?
There is nothing in scripture to suggest that demons are the disembodied spirits of fallen angel/human hybrids. This idea comes from the Book of Enoch.
A review of scripture reveals that fallen angels and demons are the same thing. We begin with Matthew 12.
Jesus is healing a demon-possessed man. The Pharisees said he cast out demons by the power of Beelzebul.
Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. All the people were astonished and said, “Could this be the Son of David?” But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”Matthew 12:22-24
Who was Beelzebul?
Jesus explains in the next verse, He says;
Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. If SATAN drives out SATAN, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?Matthew 12:25
Jesus explains that Beelzebul is SATAN and Satan rules a kingdom of DEMONS.
That these demons are also called ANGELS can be seen in Matthew 25.
Here Jesus tells us that eternal fire is prepared for the devil and HIS ANGELS.
Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and HIS ANGELS.Matthew 25:41
That demons are fallen angels is also seen in Revelation 12.
Michael and his angels are fighting against the Dragon (devil) and HIS ANGELS.
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and HIS ANGELS, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and HIS ANGELS were cast out with him.Revelation 12:7-9
In Summation
The term demons and fallen angels are used interchangeably in scripture. In trying to explain Genesis 6, the Book of Enoch offers a contrived and distorted view of who and what demons are. The Bible sets us straight.
About the Book of Enoch
The Book of Enoch is considered a Pseudepigraphal Writing or False Name Writing. This means that someone else besides Enoch wrote the book— probably in the first or second century before Christ.
Jesus did not mention it, although Jude, the brother of Jesus did. Jude quotes from it in Jude 14-15. That doesn’t mean that the entire book is true, only that the verses quoted are true.
Jude is not the only one to quote from a non-biblical source. The Apostle Paul quotes Epimenides in Titus 1:12 but that does not mean we should give extra authority to the writings of Epimenides.
What I find most disturbing are the heretical teachings in the Book of Enoch. Teachings that completely contradict the Bible. Here are a few:
1. An extra-Biblical angel named Phanuel is “set over the repentance unto hope of those who inherit eternal life.” What???
2. The Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Spirits, and his name before the Head of Days.
The son of man was Jesus’ favorite name for Himself. No one named Him. The terms “Lord of Spirits” and “Head of Days” are NOT in the Bible.
3. Man’s wisdom comes from an extra-Biblical angel named Penemue. Nuts!!!
David Stewart explains all of this and more in his fine article, The Book of Enoch Exposed (link).
Conclusion
The Book of Enoch and the Bible are NOT compatible. Not only are its doctrines crazy but the implications of its doctrines are crazy!
Some Christians think its okay because it helps people understand who the ALIENS will be when the “Great Deception” comes— you know, they’re just demonic hybrids from the Nephilim.
What people fail to realize is that if you accept demons as hybrids you accept transhumanism. If you accept transhumanism you’ve admitted that the false Messiah can genetically take away SIN. If that’s the case, why did the real Jesus come? You have made His death on the CROSS null and void— God forbid!
No dear readers, we must stand against those who preach the validity of the Book of Enoch. It’s Satan’s tool for assaulting the church in the last days.
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Isaac · 375 weeks ago
Isaac · 375 weeks ago
Gregg 57p · 374 weeks ago
I'm not a n expert in this, but I think donkeys and horses are of the same "kind". God has probably placed boundaries within species that stop the further evolution of that specie. That would be my guess. Thanks for your thoughts.
Gregg 57p · 374 weeks ago
I still think we have "big" people today, don't you think? There may not be entire races of giants but some families have genes that make them big. In Genesis 6:4 the fallacy is thinking the Nephilim and the "mighty men" are one in the same. The Bible is saying that IN THE TME of the Nephilim or giants, the sons of God came unto the daughter of men (both human) and some of their children became mighty men. Nephilim is just being used as a reference point. Misunderstanding this scripture tied with the false teaching of the Book of Enoch has spawned a whole cottage industry of "hybrid" thinking. I think this is a trap of the enemy. Thanks for your comments.
Rebekah Goodall · 315 weeks ago
I agree with you that Satan has nothing to offer that allows people to be redeemed; because all who come from Adam are already under the authority of Satan via our forefather Adam making that choice for the whole family.
I don't agree that the Sons of God are humans only because of passages like Deuteronomy 32:8-9, Pslam 81, 1 Kings 22:19.
I'm agnostic that the great deception will involve the creation of more hybrids but I understand people's need to see the act of taking the mark of the beast as something that will really change a person's DNA from being human *with Jesus as their potential kinsman redeemer*, to something that is not purely humans and therefore not family with Jesus as part of the human race and not able to be saved through his blood.
I understand people's acceptance of demons as disembodied spirits because it is common knowledge that these beings, whoever they are, have such a habit of using other people's bodies as their host through possession.
I believe that the book of Enoch was thought to be the best way to describe what cannot be seen in the spiritual realm by those very Jews who met Jesus and had these beings driven out from them.
I believe the absence of Jesus making any statements against the teachings of Enoch COULD be considered as tolerance of it, as it was so popular he would have read it, and instead he spent time debating against other issues with the religious leaders. It almost seems like it was a settled matter that didn't need to be brought up. He definatly took inspiration from it himself as it is compatable with his teachings of Sheol, the underworld in Luke 16:19–31. The disciples would most defiantly would have brought it up with Jesus and IF Jesus was against Enoch they MIGHT have later said something in the epistles and the gospels if it was an issue. Instead they actually quote from Enoch as if they thought Jesus wouldn't have minded being associated with this text.
Also I wonder if you have considered; try this thought experiment- you don't have to agree; Wouldn't it be more loving of God that he sent the flood to rescue Noah and his family who were the only ones who remained pure, genetically (100% human) from the horrors of cannibalistic, man-eating, violent, evil, giants who's creation was intended by satan to kill all the human race so that the seed of the woman, the child who would crush the head of the snake, would never be born? And then what if the absolute salvation of Noah and his family had nothing to do with their own righteous works but an extension of grace by a loving God. And then after the flood their son Ham was then still quite capable of attempting to usurp his father that he may have control over the earth. I don't think it makes sense for someone who was literally saved from destruction for being so so much more righteous than all the people who were simply killed for being the same kind of dumb and evil, to turn from the Lord in just a year after seeing his power to kill all the inhabitants on the earth.
I recommend if you believe that the truth is what is really important and that all people be freed from Satan's deception that you consider the arguments presented by Donah and Josh here on their show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBtM32uYkcU&t...
But anyway, thank you Gregg for sharing your thoughts. It's good to discuss different options so that we can all come to see the truth.
Much Love Rebekah - bekaellen.com
Gregg 57p · 315 weeks ago
The point of the article is to show that God does NOT allow hybrids. The theology in the Book of Enoch is that God does allow hybrids in that demons mate with humans. In the article I show how the Bible does not teach this. I feel this teaching is inspired by Satan because if hybrids were possible then man could be his own savior by changing man's DNA to be sinless (transhumanism). The sin is in the DNA, that's how it is passed from generation to generation. Only God, through Christ can make us a "new creation" (2 Corinthians 5:17). In the book of Jude, Jude simply quotes from the book of Enoch, he isn't endorsing it, it doesn't mean the Book of Enoch is scripture. It doesn't mean that the false doctrine in the book of Enoch about hybrids is also true. The idea of hybrids, half man, half demon has gone rampant in the church today. My point is this is a false doctrine and very dangerous for a Christian to promote.
God bless,
Gregg
Rebekah Goodall · 315 weeks ago
Did you know that Goliath was said to be descended from the Nephilim? His mother was a giant, meaning at 10 foot tall he wasn't even the tallest giant that was defeated in Canaan.
Also; I think that theologically you are missing the understanding that sin is our own choice. On Judgement day God isn't going to ask you to give a report of your life but showing your DNA results; those who are condemned to the prison of Hell will be sent that way because it is justice for the very crimes and offences that they acted out for themselves; The Lord will not say "oh you were only human, you couldn't help yourself."
How then was Jesus sinless if he came from marry? Was his DNA not the same as ours? That would mean he inherited the guilt of sin from his mother. Have you considered that your own teaching could be twisted to make the argument that Jesus was not without sin through his human birth; and therefore your argument actually affects the truthfulness of foundational Christian doctrine, which could be considered more dangerous than this secondary issue?
I just don't think the Shemite theory holds water and you still have the burden of proof.
kind regards, Rebekah.
Gregg 57p · 315 weeks ago
Was not Jesus born of a VIRGIN? Yes. That means that the DNA of the first man Adam was NOT passed down to Jesus through Mary. Instead Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit (Matthew 1:18). Jesus was conceived with IMPERISHABLE SEED, not the perishable seed of Adam. Jesus was the first of a NEW CREATION, of which we are apart when we through faith in Christ are too reborn of imperishable or incorruptible seed (1 Peter 1:23). Sin is passed on generation to generation through the SEED of the man, not the egg of the woman. This is how Satan could fool mankind by claiming hybrids are possible. And the false book of Enoch perpetuates this myth that hybrids are possible. Therefore Satan could claim that he could change the DNA of man so he could be sinless. Do you see my reasoning here?
Brian · 312 weeks ago
Let's look at 2 Peter 4:5-6 "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;"
What angels that sinned?? The ones who are also mentioned in Jude 1:6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."
The Context of II Peter 4:4-5 is talking about the time of Genesis and Noah as these (fallen) angels that committed this sin in Genesis 6 (which produced the giants) are currently reserved in chains waiting for judgement. We need to compare scripture with scripture folks, in which this poster of the article has not done.
Gregg 57p · 312 weeks ago
Where in the article did I ever say Seth and his line created giants?
Genesis 6:4 simply says that “there were giants in the earth in those days”. In what days? In the days when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men. It’s a time qualifier.
That “there were giants in the earth in those days” is simply used to show us the TIME FRAME that the sons of God and the daughters of men came together. In others words, the sons of God came unto the daughters of men WHEN the giants or Nephilim were on the earth.
And what did the sons of God and the daughters of men produce? Giants? No. Mighty men. Giants and mighty men are NOT the same thing!
You are superimposing ideas taken from the Book of Enoch onto Genesis 6 to think that the sons of God and the daughters of men produced giants. It doesn’t say that! It says that they produced mighty men! The mention of giants is to show us WHEN they produced mighty men, when the giants were on the earth, that’s when.
Also in 2 Peter 2 (not chapter 4 as you said), what angels did God not spare when they sinned? God did not spare the angels that sinned when they rebelled against HIM in heaven (Isaiah 14:12, Luke 10:18, Revelation 9:1).
2 Peter 2 is not talking about your imagined idea that God did not spare angels that sinned with humans. That’s you overlaying the ideas of the Book of Enoch on top of the Bible.
Yes, Peter mentions Noah, but he also mentions Sodom and Gomorrah and Lot, a totally different time frame. Peter is simply talking about the doom of FALSE TEACHERS here.
Brian, I’m not sure you even read my article. I go over each step of the argument and explain why Genesis 6 in no way suggests that angels mated with humans. If you have an open mind, why not go back and read the article with a mind to hear. I think you will learn something.
Gregg
Brian · 312 weeks ago
Also the Old testament uses the term "Sons of God" only 5 times (mostly in JOB) and were ALWAYS referred to as Angels, not too mention Angels ALWAYS appeared as men. Even the Sodomites wanted the two angels as they appeared as men. So angels have the ability to take on physical form and even the bible says we entertain angels unaware.
Also GIANTS did exist (they were called mighty men because they were of great stature) Even Moses sent out scouts in Numbers 13:32-33 These Giants were described as we were like grasshoppers in their sight. Verse 32 says they were eating people (eating the inhabitants).. Goliath, King Og, The philistines,the Amorites etc were all Giants. Even Amos 2:9 describes one as tall a cedar tree.
You are taking scripture out of context,while also NOT comparing scripture with other scripture just fit your narrative and belief on this subject. You are just refusing to read scripture literally. Sorry,but you are wrong on this subject, along with other errors in teaching on other topics.
And lastly, I never read the book of Enoch so your argument there is also Mute
Brian · 312 weeks ago
This is why Genesis 6 says Noah was 'PERFECT' in his generations (geneology). It did not mean he was perfect ,meaning being sinless, as no one is sinless but only Christ, the verse refers to his bloodline was not tainted as he was perfect (without blemish) his generations.